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Most Likely Trade Candidates[ February 15, 2008 at 9:55 AM ] [ Comments (21) ] [ Full Story ]
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[ Tagged: MLB Trade Rumors, Spring Training 08 ] Juan Cruz. Jorge Sosa. Jorge Julio. Those are some of the biggest names to be traded during Spring Training in recent years. Will 2008 be any different? Here are ten who might be dealt.
Tim Dierkes covers every baseball rumor on his site MLB Trade Rumors and fantasy baseball on Roto Authority. CommentsNo1ofConsequence
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If the Nationals trade Nick Johnson they need to have their collective heads examined. If I am Brian Cashman I am salivating at the prospect of a .420 OBP and a potential gold glove playing 100 games for me at first this year. I can't see the O's trading Roberts with the key piece being Matt Murton. They already have 3-4 youngish OF's with similar or more upside. The O's don't have to trade Roberts cheap & under control threw 09. Something similar to Patterson, Cendeno, & Marshall would be more realistic.
What about Brandon Inge of the Detroit Tigers? If there is anyone who likely will be traded it's probably Inge. However a lot will depend if Vance Wilson is healthy. The centerpiece is not Murton, it is Gallagher. This is a very fair trade for the O's because they are getting two good young position players in Murton and Cedeno (Cedeno could play infield or outfield) and a rising star pitcher in Gallagher. He will be a three or four pitcher in the league. As a Cubs fan I almost don't want to see him get traded at all. How do you figure this is a fair trade? Roberts is one of the top 2B in the game, he is the premier base stealer and he would be the best lead off hitter the Cubs have had in a couple generations. Gallagher is at best a #3 starter. The Orioles currently have about 2 dozen of them. It is not hard to see him lost in the shuffle. He likely will not make the team in 2008 and I would not put him ahead of Liz, Olson, Albers, Tillman, Beato, Arrieta or Bascom. If he ever pitches for the O's it would be in relief. Murton is a corner OF who does not have another position. The Orioles have Scott and Markakis on the corners. They also have about 4 DH types who would be ahead of him. Murton may also not even make the major league team this or next year. Why get him if he is going to languish in AAA? Cedeno is one of the most over rated players on a seriously over rated prospect list in Chicago. He is not a good SS. He appears to be a decent 2B, but he will never hit MLB pitching well enough to start. The Orioles already have 2 bench players who are better IF than Cedeno and the Orioles do not need another OF back up. Why get him if he is just going to fill a slot in the minors? If the Orioles make this trade they will send one of their 2 est players for 3 minor league players who may never play for the Orioles. Fair? Hardly. It will take 5 players to get Roberts unless one of them is Hill, then it may only take 4. Pie should be a non-issue. He is fast but he may never hit well enough to justify moving Jones to LF and Scott to 1B or DH. I could see Hill, Marshall, Patterson and a AA or A level prospect who is rated pretty high. I do not think, however, that the Cubs have anyone who fits that description and I do not see Hendry giving up his modest supply of talent for a 2 year rental. Ok trade a cheap all-star second baseman for a potential #4 pitcher & a couple young bench players:) Does Murton play over Markakis, Jones, or even Luke Scott/Payton? Cendeno is a nice fit, but doesn't have much upside. "Ok trade a cheap all-star second baseman for a potential #4 pitcher & a couple young bench players" Roberts is a good player, but nothing great. He is however exactly what the Cubs need (can leadoff, get on base and steal bases). As far as the package proposed, it is very fair from both sides. Cedeno and Gallagher both have upside and are under control a lot longer than Roberts. And Murton will make an okay DH or could be repackaged for more prospects by the O's. It seems to me that the O's fans out there are overvaluing Roberts right now. Turk this is the O's your talking about. I can't see them wanting a deal like that. Its gonna take a better offer. The players proposed are not good enough fits to them. They'll want a more established pitcher & better postional talent. I agree. If the Yanks could send a minor leaguer or two, I think they should get Johnson back... Nick Johnson, that is... If they obtain Roberts, why bat him second with no one to bat in the 2 hole. The line up would look more like this I think. 1. Soriano Soto and Fukodome can be switched, but Soto looks like a better protection piece to me. sor is not leadoff this year for health reasons. roberts with fuko as 1 & 2 in lineup is a better setup then let lee, ram, and sor clean the off the bases. that was our big problem last year was obp I don't know if you can really justify putting Soriano's Speed anywhere but at the top of the lineup. Maybe 5th as a 2nd lead off man. I don't know. Probably not a bad plan either. Greg Grant
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If Clifton Lee does not make the Indians rotation out of Spring Training, I suspect he's pitching for some other team. Soriano's speed is not there anymore, remember him hurting his leg last season? It isn;t still completely healed. They want him for RBI's not speed, also, he STILL k's too much. Putting roberts at leadoff, with a 400 OBP guy like fukudome batting second, would be like some really good gravy on top of the mashed potatoes that is lee, ramirez, and soriano. (food analogies rock). Where are you getting your information on Roberts? The Cubs blogs? You are sadly mosinformed. Do some research. We are not talking about Mark DeRosa. Roberts is ranked 28th in VORP in MLB and is 3rd highest among MLB 2B. This would also make him the highest rated among the Cubs: His WARP2 is 9.5. Compare this to Utley's 10.7, Tulowitzki's 10.7, Uggla's 9.6 and Polanco's 11.0. Meanwhile, comparet his to DeRosa's paltry 5.8. This puts Roberts in some pretty heady company. Who is doing the over valued? It seems to me the Cubs fans are of the opinion that ANYONE wearing their uniform is an All Star or a future one. Please. Get real. What kind of an upside is a bottom of the rotation pitcher, a bench player who is neither a strong hitter or defender and a player with no position? The Cubs can't even trade Gallagher and Murton for Marlon Byrd. How does adding the throw away Cedeno merit a player worth 10 times what Byrd is? And if Murton was such a great thing, why would the Cubs want to give him up for the older and all around average Byrd? The old Orioles Front Office would have bit on this deal and Angelos would have killed it. And Angelos would have been right. wow, with all of that talent, I guess the O's should start printing those playoff tickets! Nope, they don't need a #3-type starter, heck, Gallagher would be lucky to crack the AAA rotation! The O's could certainly use Gallager, but doubt they will trade for a package that features him. Gallager is a nice prospect, but doesn't carry enough value to get a top 5 2B. Those spare parts added shouldn't be considered a strong offer. I think that both Oriole and Cub fans are overrating players involved in the Roberts deal (and yes that includes Roberts as well). If they don't want to trade Roberts then that's fine. The Cubs can win the division without him, while the Orioles look like at least a 90 loss season is in their future. I think the question that needs to be asked is; If Oriole fans think that the Cub minor league players are no better than what they already have in their system, then why aren't some of those players starting over mediocre retreads like Millar, Payton, Huff, Gibbons, Redman, etc? |
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I really do not understand all the talk surrounding the Dodgers adding a starting pitcher. A back of the rotation starting pitcher is the last thing the Dodgers need. I could see adding a Bedard, Haren, or Johan because they are number one starting pitchers and are hard to come by.
However, adding a mediocre innings eater in Blanton who has been terrible out of Oakland at the cost two or three good young players or adding a Brewer reject does not make much sense for the Dodgers.
The Dodgers have a solid front four penciled in with Penny, Lowe, C-Bills, and Kuroda.
For the 5th slot in the rotation the Dodgers have $20 million invested in Schmdit and Loaiza. They only need one of them to be healthy.
If they do not workout take your pick from McDonald, Stults, Elbert, or by mid season Kershaw.
How much more depth do you need for the 5th slot in the rotation?